Live CD iso9660 error

[jrudd1985]

Hi all. I have searched your installation forum and all of Goggle for days about the following problem.

I have burned the ISO to a disk and used the disk to boot and it gives i think about 3 or 4 options whether to install, run live cd, partition prog and advanced options.
When i select LiveFreespire it starts the process with the current status bar running at the bottom of the screen and it stalls at about 5% the CD ROM stops spinning and it throws up the following error's access my screen.

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. first block of iso9660 file system not found
0. not an iso9660 file system
loop/7 .. exception: end of file
loop/6 .. exception: end of file
5


rd/9 .. first block of iso9660 file system not found.
rd/8 .. first block of iso9660 file system not found.

15 . First block of iso9660 file system not found
14 . First block of iso9660 file system not found

First block of iso9660 file system not found
not an iso9660 file system.
FATAL: CD search failed. Type "exit" to reboot.

[ 190.341706] isofd_fill_super: bread failed, dev=cloop0, iso_blknum=1 (cant see the rest)
Mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on dev/cloop0,
missing codepage or other error
(could be ide device where you in fact use ide-scsi so that sr0 or sda or so needed?)
in some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmseg | tail or so.

[ 190.369045] ext2-fs: unable to read superblock
mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on dev/cloop0,
missing code page or other error
(could be ide device where you in fact use ide-scsi so that sr0 or sda or so needed?)
in some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmseg | tail or so.

cp: cannot create regualr file ''tmp/init2': no such file or directory
cp: cannot create regualr file ''tmp/init3': no such file or directory
mkdir: cannot create directory ''tmp/pts': no such file or directory
mkdir: cannot create directory ''tmp/shm': no such file or directory
mount: mount point tmp/pts does not exist
mount: mount point tmp/shm does not exist
mount: mount point dev does not exist
mount: mount point dev/pts does not exist
mount: mount point dev/shm does not exist
pivot_root: no such file or directory
/bin/init: line 265: dev/console: no such file or directory
[190.430734] kernal panic - not syncing: attempted to kill init?
[190.433419]

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freespire_1.0.13 That is the version I downloaded from a torrent website! I keep reading about checksums but I do not understand how to check the checksum against the burned iso disk, but the disk works in my laptop and friends PC and loads freespire live fine.

ALL the above was taken from a screenshot which i had to type up, so forgive me if i made any errors.

At the last line [190...] the system crashed.

The CD i used to run Freespire works fine on my laptop, but does not work on my pc. I have tried compiling the CD my self but it didnt boot, so i have used different CD writing software (nero, alcohol 120%) i have even tried writing the disk using the laptops software, roxio. I have tried different options within Nero like making sure it is set as an ISO9660 etc.. but it works on the laptop. All the CD's I made boot up but all display the above errors when i try and use LiveFreespire! All the CD's I made also work on the laptop with NO problems.

I have used other Linux system software before, and runs Live CD's fine but this one is being awkward.

Do you think it could possibly be my DVD-ROM/RW Drive?
I have tried flashing the DVD ROM firmware but wont let me. (That's another story, but i tried that after all the above efforts)

I might buy another DVD-ROM i'll see what advice I receive first.

MY PC Specs -
Pentium Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 2.4GHz 1066FSB
1GB x2 GEil DDR2 RAM 677MHz
Gigabyte GA-965P-S3 rev 1.0
460 Watt Zalman
200GB ST3200820AS SATA Seagate HD
200GB ST3200822AS SATA Seagate HD
NVidia 7600GT 256DDR3
Optiarc DVD RW AD-7170A SCSI (connected via IDE, connections fine)
Windows XP Professional SP2 (sorry about the language)

I would be more than greatful for any help and will reply to any questions.

Thank you very much.

Jamie Rudd.

[Bobert]

welcome to freespire and the forums.
if the livecd is working, then most likely the problem has nothing to do with the disc, the download, the burning software, or the disc drive.
the problem is most likely the fact that you have SATA and what looks like RAID. Freespire does not like SATA harddrives or RAID. on occasion people get it to work, but it's very much luck of the draw.
you can try the various advanced install options, but you're probably out of luck unless you want to buy an IDE harddrive and have no RAID.

[jrudd1985]

Originally Posted by Bobert

welcome to freespire and the forums.
if the livecd is working, then most likely the problem has nothing to do with the disc, the download, the burning software, or the disc drive.
the problem is most likely the fact that you have SATA and what looks like RAID. Freespire does not like SATA harddrives or RAID. on occasion people get it to work, but it's very much luck of the draw.
you can try the various advanced install options, but you're probably out of luck unless you want to buy an IDE harddrive and have no RAID.

Hi Bobbert, thanks for you reply and your time.

I have RAID on my motherboard but it is disabled in BIOS, although I activated it to see what happens and the disk brings back 'Error 23' when using freespire.

I found out how to check the checksum after downloading some software from Nero and it showed the correct checksum.

Well there is no way I am going to give up yet, I managed to flash my DVD ROM to version 1.3 and unfortunately it didnt help the problem, just made it quicker at accessing and burning. Spent a total of 3 hours trying to change firmware version.

I am going to buy a new IDE cable, and a new DVD-ROM next week and see what happens, but you are probably right, and ill have to go IDE which isn't happening because i've got my 3rd SATA HD coming in the post. If it comes down to it, i've got an old PC with IDE hard drive which is a spare with O/S for parent but i could use that. I'll let you know next week how I get on.

I think I read somewhere that there is going to be a final Freespire release in Q1 2007, do you think they will address this problem as I'm sure there are many other users that would love to run Freespire!

Another question; I've ran Linux Live CDs before but i have not installed any to the HD, do you think that other Linux OSs will be the same when it comes to understanding SATA HD's?

Thanks again,

Jamie

[Bro.Tiag]

Welcome to linux, Freespire & the forums.

Originally Posted by jrudd1985

I think I read somewhere that there is going to be a final Freespire release in Q1 2007, do you think they will address this problem as I'm sure there are many other users that would love to run Freespire!
Jamie

Very nice original post by the way.

Try installing with just one SATA hard drive in yur box, if that works then we can see "bout putting the other HD back in. I've installed to a SATA hd & it works fine.

Cheers

[jrudd1985]

Originally Posted by Bro.Tiag

Welcome to linux, Freespire & the forums.


Very nice original post by the way.

Try installing with just one SATA hard drive in yur box, if that works then we can see "bout putting the other HD back in. I've installed to a SATA hd & it works fine.

Cheers

Hi Bro.Tiag, thanks for the reply.
How was my original post very nice? I am lost. The information? lol.

I will try what you wrote on Tuesday or my girlfriend will go nuts at me messing around with PC's all weekend, hehe.

Thanks,

Jamie

[Bro.Tiag]

Originally Posted by jrudd1985

Hi Bro.Tiag, thanks for the reply.
How was my original post very nice? I am lost. The information? lol.

I will try what you wrote on Tuesday or my girlfriend will go nuts at me messing around with PC's all weekend, hehe.

Thanks,

Jamie

Aye, very informative, well spelled out and including yur system specifications. Oh if every new poster was a thorough as you it would cut down some of our post counts...oh never mind .

Well done.
Cheers

[jrudd1985]

Originally Posted by Bro.Tiag

Aye, very informative, well spelled out and including yur system specifications. Oh if every new poster was a thorough as you it would cut down some of our post counts...oh never mind .

Well done.
Cheers

Hi Bro.Tiag.

Thanks for the complement. I have a good idea what to write about errors, the more information the quicker the solutions follow.

With requests to trying to run Freespire with one HD, I did what you said, and it didnt work, so i disconnected my other HD and booted up and it still didnt work.
I cleaned the cables, and swapped the IDE around cables around it still didnt work!! I EVEN disconnected both HD's and it STILL didnt work!
I think that if I got hold of an IDE drive, it still wouldn't make any difference.

I was running some diagnostic software last night, Hiren's BootCD. I got into the main menu ok in DOS, and was running some software, and I clicked on a piece of software that requires a mount on the disk and then the computer couldnt see the drive? I am starting to think all this could possibly be a DVD-ROM drive incompatibility problem? Here is the error;

Creating 50mb Ram drive R
Extracting Files to R:
Keyboarrd US etc..
Loading Mouse....
DOSKEY installed..
Loading CDROM Driver
OAKCDROM.SYS Loading Failed...
VIDE-CDD.SYS Loading
VIDE-CDD.SYS Loading Failed
ATAPICD.SYS loading....

It looks that it could be the DVD-ROM drive? My own assumption, but error's only happen so far with Hiren's bootdisk and Freespire. Others to follow probably

I am still going to purchase a new DVD-ROM anyway as funnily enough none of my friends have a spare one lying around.

Thanks mate,

Jamie

[Bobert]

Well there is no way I am going to give up yet.....
I think I read somewhere that there is going to be a final Freespire release in Q1 2007, do you think they will address this problem as I'm sure there are many other users that would love to run Freespire!
Another question; I've ran Linux Live CDs before but i have not installed any to the HD, do you think that other Linux OSs will be the same when it comes to understanding SATA HD's?

i cerainly hope you don't give up. and yes, hopefully there will be freespire 2.0 coming out around the end of January (the alphas are already out). being that it's based on a new version of debian, it might have the problem fixed, but i wouldn't bet on it. and yes, many linux distros run just fine on sata.

[Bro.Tiag]

Originally Posted by jrudd1985

With requests to trying to run Freespire with one HD, I did what you said, and it didnt work, so i disconnected my other HD and booted up and it still didnt work. I cleaned the cables, and swapped the IDE around cables around it still didnt work!! I EVEN disconnected both HD's and it STILL didnt work! I think that if I got hold of an IDE drive, it still wouldn't make any difference.

Thanks mate,

Jamie

Well I'm no hardware man, or even a software one at that, but you should be able to run the LiveCD with no hd in the box. Me thinks it could be yur dvd-rom as well. To bad non of yur mates have an old CD-rom 'bout.

Cheers

[jrudd1985]

Originally Posted by Bro.Tiag

Well I'm no hardware man, or even a software one at that, but you should be able to run the LiveCD with no hd in the box. Me thinks it could be yur dvd-rom as well. To bad non of yur mates have an old CD-rom 'bout.

Cheers

Hi again.
Today I have been out and purchased a brand new DVD-ROM and an IDE cable. I got home, plugged it in, and you know what? IT DIDNT WORK!

I am running out of ideas now, and that was a very costly idea as the shop do not do refunds on computer hardware. Oh what a day!

I just hope when the final release of Freespire arrives, this problem is solved or maybe ill just have stick with Windows, or another type or OS.

Someone out there must have a solution to this problem!

Sighs!

Jamie **starting to give up**

Thanks for your help guys!

[DrHu]

Today I have been out and purchased a brand new DVD-ROM and an IDE cable

Is the notebook dvd drive different, ie dvd+rw, ram, or is it also a dvd-rom only drive...
dvd drive types
http://compreviews.about.com/od/cddv...CDDVDSpecs.htm
http://www.cdrom-drivers.com/
http://www.meritline.com/lg-dvd-burners.html

Since you bought one already, it is too late, but unless there is a compelling reason to use a dvd-rom drive (old cd-1 disks need to be used), I would have got a dvd+rw,ram drive, ie a dvd/cd combo drive which allows writing cd and dvd.

It still is an issue with the media, and that combo (media + dvd drive type).
to get it running, you should be able to swap the drive from the notebook to the desktop and get the install done? (I am guessing it must be a different type of dvd drive in the notebook)

I also see the sata drive issues, so hopefully you have settled those first!

[jrudd1985]

Originally Posted by DrHu

Is the notebook dvd drive different, ie dvd+rw, ram, or is it also a dvd-rom only drive...
dvd drive types
http://compreviews.about.com/od/cddv...CDDVDSpecs.htm
http://www.cdrom-drivers.com/
http://www.meritline.com/lg-dvd-burners.html

Since you bought one already, it is too late, but unless there is a compelling reason to use a dvd-rom drive (old cd-1 disks need to be used), I would have got a dvd+rw,ram drive, ie a dvd/cd combo drive which allows writing cd and dvd.

It still is an issue with the media, and that combo (media + dvd drive type).
to get it running, you should be able to swap the drive from the notebook to the desktop and get the install done? (I am guessing it must be a different type of dvd drive in the notebook)

I also see the sata drive issues, so hopefully you have settled those first!

Hiya DrHU.

Sorry I should have been more specific in what I purchased. I actually purchased a Lite-On DVD-RW LH-I8A1P connected via ATA 133 cable which is selected as master. (Its the only device on that cable anyway)

My laptop has a Matshita UJ-832D DVD-RW/CD-RW. Regards to removing my DVD Writer drive from my laptop and putting it in the PC, I really don't like the idea of taking my beautiful Sony Vaio 13.3" S5XP Laptop apart to perform such an operation lol.

My other DVD Writer installed in my PC is a Optiarc ad-7170a v1.3 which I used previously to run LiveCD which did not work.

When I tried to run Freespire today, I tried all the selections available and none of them operated beyond 5% and crashed my system.

The media i used to write the disks were, Infiniti WhiteTop 52x 80min (90pc Cakebox + Marker Pen Bundle). I also used some other disks to check if it was the media causing the problem, but they are old disks and im unsure of the brand.

I was thinking it would be very handy if there was a hardware page created. This could allow users to select the hardware their currently using via drop down menus. Im sure after a bit of thought that this could be easily implemented? It should reduce the posts due to compatibility queries? Maybe I'm out of my league suggesting something like that.

P.S. Bit of advice:- If you need some PC equipment desperately, buy from Ebay or overclockers.co.uk as you will save a fortune to high street prices! I have ordered from overclockers many times and everything has arrived in prestine condition!

P.P.S. I'm pretty adament that all this has nothing to do with my SATA HD's as it still performs the error without any HD's present.

Jamie

[DrHu]

I think you probably have a better dvd drive now, so...
Make the hard drive the primary channel and therefor the first drive on the system, add any cd/dvd drives as either the slave drive on the primary channel or the master on the secondary channel

Primary IDE > hdd1, hdd2(cd1/dvd1)
Secodary IDE > hdd3, hdd3 (cd1/dvd1, cd2/dvd2)
--or any combination, here!

There can only be one master per channel...and try boot again.

As to the hardware configration page, it may help if it covered absolutely everything, but if you check with those companies that do this, either sofware or hardware..(eg, HP, Dell, IBM, Microsoft)
Their configurators are really sales product configuration build pages, not true hardware compatability creation pages

I don't think anybody has ever offered, this is our hardware, check off anything that might work style pages ?

But basically a good idea nevertheless!
http://media.linspire.com/partner/bu...checklist.html

Sata drives
http://forum.freespire.org/archive/i...hp/t-1310.html
http://forum.freespire.org/showthread.php?t=788
http://forum.linspire.com/viewtopic....951 2d8d9ffeb
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...d.php?t=502356

Boot Options ...check the "cheatcodes"
You might need some boot options, like irqpol acpi=off
https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu....15/+bug/21344
http://kanotix.com/FAQ-id_cat-63.html

[jrudd1985]

Hello again.

On my IDE cable I have only one device plugged in which is the DVD Writer and it is set to Master. When my PC boots up it lists the devices connected to my computer, looks sommin like this:
IDE Master Channel 0 Seagate
IDE Master Channel 2 Seagate
IDE Master Channel 4 DVD-RW

My hard drives are SATA and show up as Masters on seperate channels.

I was thinking, because their is an error i was thinking of running the actual disk from the HD, do you think this is possible?
I was reading thehttp://kanotix.com/FAQ-id_cat-63.html and this gave useful tips on how to add commands onto the grub line, but I dont understand how to do it. When the disk loads and your presented with 4 options, I pressed e to edit the LiveFreespire option and it gave me 2 other options, so i clicked e and at the end of the command which ends in .gz i addded " ..........gz /nohd" so it runs from the hd and when I press tab it shows an error? I pressed escape and it saves the adjustment and press B to run the change but it still crashes, im out of ideas. My only option which is a costly one is to purchase a new motherboard.

Jamie

[DrHu]

I don't know if freespire provides a list of grub cheatcodes (boot options), but if you press F1 when starting, you may get some...

The irqpoll option might work, needed for some motherboards!

ref JDoyle on this forum answer:

Pass the vesa option to the kernel at boot.
When the "boot from" choices come up, select install Freespire or Run Live and hit the "e" button to edit.
Scroll down to the line that starts with the word "kernel".
Hit "e" again, then hit the spacebar key once, then type in xdriver=vesa, then hit the enter key.
Then hit the "b" key to boot.

Try the irqpoll option instead..

HARDWARE
* Some newer motherboards, especially HP brand computers, exhibit IRQ errors in the syslog, thus requiring the boot parameter 'irqpoll' to be used for installation and/or bootup success.

http://wiki.freespire.org/index.php/Known_Bugs

[jrudd1985]

Originally Posted by DrHu

I don't know if freespire provides a list of grub cheatcodes (boot options), but if you press F1 when starting, you may get some...

The irqpoll option might work, needed for some motherboards!

ref JDoyle on this forum answer:

Try the irqpoll option instead..


http://wiki.freespire.org/index.php/Known_Bugs

Hi again, thanks for the advice.
I have previously tried the irqpoll and the xdriver=vesa command with no luck. I am sure someone will come up with a solution eventually but thanks for your time.

Time for an Indian now

Jamie

[jrudd1985]

Hi Guys.

From all the above conversations we had trying to fix the problem with Freespire, I had the same problem with Opensuse. It allowed me to "add module" within the installation process, I added the pata jmicron and the installation completed. The problem is with the pata jmicron which controls the SATA, IDE and DVD-ROM/RW as far as I know.

Do you guys think that this module could be intergrated within the Freespire Live CD somehow as I prefer Freespire over Suse, or possibly some sort of command line code which I can type?

Replys greatly appreciated,
Jamie.